Thursday, May 26, 2016

Number the Stars (Chapters 9-10)

1. Do you believe Uncle Henrik?  Do you think Annemarie was safer not knowing the truth? 

2. Do you think this general idea is true?  That children are safer not knowing the truth about the dangers that surround them?  One example would be when Mrs. Johansen didn't tell Kirsti the truth about the "fireworks" on the night of her birthday.  By misleading Kirsti to believe that the explosions from the Navy ships were actually fireworks for her birthday, Mrs. Johansen gave Kirsti the chance to fall asleep peacefully and not stress or worry about the truth of what was happening.

3. What examples from this story, or other stories/movies can you share that defend the idea that it is sometimes better for children to not know the truth of a dangerous situation.

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  1. I believe uncle Hendrik because if you have to lie to a soldier they would obviously know your lying and you coulg get in trouble.

    Yes the idea is true because Nazis are strong, fierce ,and mean. They do not care about anything but them self. So they would easily hurt children without care so if they did not know thy would be a lot safer.

    The story I think could match this is the Butterfly because Monique never new that Jews were in her basement so if soldiers asked about that she would simply just say no.

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    1. I agree, Tyler. They could be completely honest because they didn't know.

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  2. 1.) I believe Uncle Henrik and I think Annemarie is safer not knowing the whole truth.

    2.)Yes, I believe that children are often more safe not knowing the truth.

    3.)I remember in Joseph, Mr.Byers didn't tell Joseph who he was talking to. I know why he did this. He didn't tell him because it's easier to "lie" if you don't know the whole truth. In the beginning of Number the Stars, Annemarie and Ellen are stopped by the Nazis. If they knew why thy stopped them, Annemarie would have shown the signs of lying.

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    1. I agree, Olivia. You made an interesting connection to Joseph and yes, Annemarie could have shown the signs of lying if she had known more.

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  3. 1: Yes,I think it is better for them not to know.2: Because if the children were cornered it would be harder for them to lie.3: In Joseph, Joseph's step-father tells him its better for him not to know who he is working with.

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  4. 1. I think that it is fair because if children were forced to tell the truth they wouldnt have to lie and be caught
    2. i think that it is true because again they wouldnt have to lie
    3. children could get cornered and would get caught if they lie and they wouldnt have to if they told the turth about what they think they are doing.

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    1. I agree, Ava. Remember to begin your sentences with capital letters.

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  5. Yes I think it was safer if he did not tell Annemarie the truth.I think this because when the nazi soiders came she could tell them with complete conviction that her great aunt Bertie had died and all the people there were mournig her death.And also if they cornerd her in a room she would just say the same thing because she did not know the truth about what was in the coffin.

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    1. What an amazing use of vocabulary when you wrote "with complete conviction".

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  6. 1. I believe Uncle Henrik. I think it it is safer for Annmarie if she didn't know the truth.
    2. I think the general is true.
    3. If Annmarie knew the truth about Aunt Birte she couldent lie to the soldier.

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  7. I think Annemarie was safe not knowing the truth. If she was corned by Nazis and she knew the truth the Nazis would easily find out. I think it is good that the kids don't know the truth. It reminds me of Joseph when Joseph wanted to know who helped his dad get the slaves to the underground railroad. Also in The Butterfly I think Monique's parents did not want her to find out about the Jewish people in their cellar.

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  8. 1. I think that it is fair because if children were forced to tell the truth they wouldnt have to lie and be caught
    2. i think that it is true because again they wouldnt have to lie
    3. children could get cornered and would get caught if they lie and they wouldnt have to if they told the turth about what they think they are doing.

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  9. 1. Yes I believe it is safer for Annemrarie to not know the truth.

    2. Yes the idea is true because it is safer so kids do not have to lie.

    3. In Joseph Mr. Byers did not tell Joseph ho took the two slaves to be safe.

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  10. 1. I think that it is fair because if children were forced to tell the truth they wouldnt have to lie and be caught
    2. i think that it is true because again they wouldnt have to lie
    3. children could get cornered and would get caught if they lie and they wouldnt have to if they told the turth about what they think they are doing.

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  11. 1. I think its better of her not knowing the truth because she wouldn't do the lying jestures, but if she did know the truth the Nazi soldiers could figure out if she knew the truth. 2. Yes I think the genaral's idea is correct because then they would be lying but they wouldn't know so they wouldn't do the lying jestures. 3. I can connect to joseph because he said to other people its better if you not know what he did by helping the slaves.

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  12. yes because if kristi actuly knew the truth she would probably go telling everyone because what did kirsti have to worry about of telling people about what she knew.

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  13. 1. I think that Annemarie was safer not knowing the truth than knowing the truth. I think this because when the Nazi Officers had came to their apartment they wanted to open the casket but Mama and Annemarie didn't let them open the casket because they knew that Great Aunt Birte didn't actually exist.

    2.I think that general idea is true because if Annemarie didn't know the truth about Great Aunt Birte Annemarie wouldn't have lied to the Nazi officers about her being in the casket.

    3.One example from the story is that when Mrs.Johansen said to Kirsti that the fireworks are for her birthday but they weren't actually for her birthday instead she said it because she wanted Kirsti not to know what was happening around them.

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  14. 1.I believe uncle Henrik and I think it is safer for them to not know the truth.2.Yes I believe it is safer for them to not know the truth. I remember in Joseph that his dad thinks it's better for him to not know who he is working with in his job. Also Joseph thinks that he shouldn't let anyone else know about the cave. His dad thinks that it's better for him not to know that he is hiding the slaves in the barn next to his house. In the Butterfly I think Moniques mother knew about the trap door, so I think her other didn't want her to know about it. I think Moniques mother also didn't want Monique to find out that she was hiding slaves in the cellar. There's allot of things that can be compared with the stories we read in the classroom

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  15. 1. I think that Annemarie was safer not knowing the truth than knowing the truth. I think this because when the Nazi Officers had came to their apartment they wanted to open the casket but Mama and Annemarie didn't let them open the casket because they knew that Great Aunt Birte didn't actually exist.

    2.I think that general idea is true because if Annemarie didn't know the truth about Great Aunt Birte Annemarie wouldn't have lied to the Nazi officers about her being in the casket.

    3.One example from the story is that when Mrs.Johansen said to Kirsti that the fireworks are for her birthday but they weren't actually for her birthday instead she said it because she wanted Kirsti not to know what was happening around them.

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  16. 1. I do believe Uncle Henrik because when the Nazis came Annemarie was able to say that Great Aunt Birte was in the casket without lying.
    2. No, I don't think the general idea is wrong because sometimes children deserve to know the truth.
    3. I thought of "The Butterfly" when Marcell Solliage didn't tell Monique that they were hiding jews in their cellar.

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  17. 1. I think that Uncle Hendrik is correct. The reason I think he is correct is if all of the secrets and lying are to save Ellen and other Jews it would be better for Annemarie and Ellen not to know.

    2. One example would be in the story Annemarie and Ellen's mother did not tell them about the relocation of all Jews intill it was absolutely nesasarry.

    3. An example from a different story would be in The Butterfly Marceel did not tell Moniqu about her housing Jewish people in their basement so that if a soldier were to ask her she would be able to easily say she didn't know.

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  18. josheph because if he knew the truth at first he might tell.Also when he had nothing to worry about the missing slaves because he knew nothing about it

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  19. 1 Yes I do belive uncle Henrik because if she didn't know aunt Bertie was not real and a Nazi stopped her she could easly answer them if they asked her about aunt Bertie. If she did know the Nazis might be able to tell she was lying. 2 I think that the children are better off not knowing about the dangers around them because they probably do not want children to be worried or stressed and the parents might not want the children to be telling kids at school and spreading rumors. 3. In Joseph the bounty hunters stopped him and asked him who was helping in the under ground railroad and he easly said that he doesn't know without doing anything that would make the bounty hunterss suspitious.

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  20. 1)yes
    2)sometimes it dependes on the situasion
    3) they could esysly tell the wrog people the right thing

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    1. Eliza, We use complete sentences on the blog and defend our answers with text evidence. Please review your responses.

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  21. 1)yes
    2)sometimes it dependes on the situasion
    3) they could esysly tell the wrog people the right thing

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  22. 1. Yes, I believe Uncle Henrik. Annemarie was safer not knowing everything.
    2.
    3. Annemarie was safer not knowing everything. It was safer for Annemarie and Peter that Annemarie didn´t know what Peter was doing. It would have put them both in danger.

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  23. 1. I think it is fine not to know the truth because if someone asked you to tell them you would not know the truth
    2.Yes, I think if they knew the truth the whole plan will be a fail
    3. Well when we read Joseph he asked Mr. Byers who were the people who worked on the under ground railroad and Mr. Byers said it's better if you don't know, so if someone asked him he would just say what he knows.

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  24. 1. I think it is fine not to know the truth because if someone asked you to tell them you would not know the truth
    2.Yes, I think if they knew the truth the whole plan will be a fail
    3. Well when we read Joseph he asked Mr. Byers who were the people who worked on the under ground railroad and Mr. Byers said it's better if you don't know, so if someone asked him he would just say what he knows.

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  25. 1) Yes, I believe Uncle Henrik. Annemarie is safer not knowing the truth because if a soldier were to come to her she would just say that her Great Aunt Birte died but if she knew the truth she would struggle and the soldier would know that she is lying.

    2) Children are safer not knowing about the truth because if they know the truth they would just spill the beans but if they don´t know the truth they would just simply say the correct answer.

    3) In Number the Stars, mama, Ellen, Annemarie, and Kirsti go on a train a soldier comes and asks where are you going and that day it was the New Year for Ellen (since she´s Jewish) and Kirsti was about to say it´s Ellen´s New Year but thank goodness Annemarie stopped her. That´s why kids shouldn´t know some things.

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  26. first all of thes are yes because it is good for a chaled to not know about it before it comes.

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    1. 2.yes cuz if they know they would know about it they would have time to think about it and find sum parts that is scry about it and only think about so it would be hard to lie about it to the nazi and they would know and do someting to the person who told you.

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  27. 1. Yes I think Uncle Hendrick is correct. I think if Annemarie knew what would happen then she would be to scared to help or if she doesn't succeed what will happen to Ellen. She is safer not knowing.
    2. Children are better off not knowing what is really happening in the world. Mrs. Johanson said to Kirsti that they were fireworks celabrating her birthday. If Kirsti knew about what was accually happening she would be stressed and scared.
    3. In the story The Butterfly Monique was better off not knowing at first. Her mother kept it from her because she was worried if the Nazi's come she can simply say no without lying. She was protecting Monique and Sevrine's family by not telling Monique.

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  28. 1.I think he was protecting her. 2.Kids don't have experence they don't know when to tell the truth and when not to.

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  29. 1 yes because then she could tell the Nazis the truth if they ask who was really in the coffin
    2 same thing as i said for number one. It is easier for adults to lie then children too especially younger ones like Annmarie and Kirsti
    3 In Joseph Mr. Byers tells Joseph that he was safer if he didn't know the truth

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  30. 1.) I agree with Uncle Henrik because children´s lies are not as convincing as adults. If Annemarie were to lie, she would most likely hesitate at the question.

    2.) Children are safer not knowing things because if a soldier frightens them they will tell the truth. Believe me a Nazi would frighten any kid my age even me.

    3.) When Annemarie´s mom tells Kirsti that the ¨fireworks¨ (*cough cough) were for her. Annemarie´s mom didn´t want Kirsti to be so frightened of the real dangers in Denmark.

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  31. 1.) Yes, because if someone doesn't know, they're likely not to tell. If she knew something, she wouldn't be as brave. Think about it, if you didn't know the consequences to something, you'd probably not do it. But if you did, your braveness would flee away.
    2.) Yes, since Kirsti-once again, an example from Number the Stars-knew that Ellen and all the Jews had their New Year every Sunday, Kirsti could have told the Nazi-just by saying that-that Ellen was Jewish.
    3.) Well, one example is the one above. Also, still in the book, it would be better that Ellen thought it was "Great-aunt Birte" who died instead of something else. If Ellen knew that "Great-aunt Birte" was fake, she may have been more nervous.

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  32. 1 uncle Henrik was right because if Ammermarie knew the whole thing she would possibly want to go with them and ruin the plot to getting the Rosens to Sweden which is safer than staying in Denmark.
    2 Yes I agree because if Kirsti knew about the plot of getting Ellen to Sweden she could and possibly would go to school and say my family helps Jews escape or even worse say that to a Nazi that patrols the street corner then her family will be hurt or worse.
    3 This reminds me of Joseph because if Joseph knew any abolitionists he could have been caught then forced to tell the truth then his step-father and other abolitionists that Joseph knew of could be put in jail or worse.

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  33. 1) I believe Uncle Henrik should not say all that he knows. Even though all children want to know the truth I think they should not in SOME scenarios.

    2) Yes I think this general idea is true. But not always like in the book Snow Treasure they trust the kids with the gold and they tell them everything.

    3) In Star Wars they don't tell Luke all bad things the Empire is doing. Or in Joseph they don't tell Jared that they helped an escaped slave.

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  34. 1.Yes I think she was safe without knowing. I do belive that uncle Henrik was write. If Annemarie did not know it was a lie, if a Nazi asked her what was in the casket she would not say no one she would say her Great Aunt Birte.
    2.Yes it is not safe for little kids not knowing the truth because it is easy for other's to get them to tell the truth.
    3.In Joseph , he asked his dad are you part of the undergound railroad he said it is better if you don't know.

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  35. 1.Yes, I think this because if Annemarie was in a dangerous situation where a Nazi interrogated her, she could tell the truth. And she wouldn't have to worry and stress about the Nazi and Ellen all the time.
    2. I do believe that the idea of not telling children about what is really going on is a good idea. If Mrs. Johansen told Kirsti about what was really going on, she would probably be really scared. And she might have misused the information.
    3. In "The Butterfly" Monique's mother didn't tell Monique about Sevrine because she was trying to protect her. So if a Nazi asked her if they were helping Jews, it would be easy for her to tell the truth.

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  36. 1.I believe Uncle Henrick. Annemarie is safer not knowing because if a Nazi soldier asks her a question about it she can be honest and tell the truth.

    2. Yes, because if you are little like Kirsti in the book they don´t get as scared and hesitate to talk or tell the truth. For example, little kids do not get told what is happening in other countries because their mom and dad don´t want them to be scared when they are around these people
    3.In the book Joseph, Joseph asked his dad who helped him help the slaves escape, but he said it would be better if you did not know.

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  37. 1. Yes because Annemarie didn't know so she could tell the truth without hesitating.
    2.I think general idea is true because if a little kid knows about the truth behind the danger it would scare them but mostly if a soldier asked them something the kid would have to tell the truth.
    3.From The Butterfly if Monique didn't know Sevrine was here their family wouldn't have to leave since Sevrine was spotted with Monique.

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  38. (1) I actually think it would be better for Annemarie to know. If a soldier were to march into her homestead, she could be ready, and we already know that Annemarie is a pretty teriffic liar, even when she knows the truth.
    (2) Now question number 2 I can definetly agree with. I think it is almost a gift to not know what is really happening, so you can sleep and not have to worry.
    (3) I can really relate this to Joseph-1861 A rumble of War, when Mr. Byres tells Joseph that its best to not know.

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  39. 1. Yes I agree because childrens lies are not as convining as adults lies and annemarie is better with the truth.
    2. The general idea is that children should not know the truth because if someone such as a naziś asked a little boy/girl a question they would just give it all away right away.
    3.In the movie The tale of 4th grade nothing that cant tell fudge a lot of stuff because he does not understand scarkisam

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  40. 1. Yes. I believe that it was wiser of Uncle Henrik not to tell annemarie the truth about Great Aunt Berte. I also think annemarie would have been safer if she did not know the truth.
    2. Yes because it is easier for a grownup to keep a secret than a child, and annemarie could have spilled the beans that there was no such thing as a Great Aunt Berte. It Kirsti knew the truth, I bet everyone there that night would have been in a lot of trouble because Kirsti would have told the soldier that there was no such thing.
    3. A) It was better for the girls that day when they were racing home and the soldier thought that they looked like hoodlums. If Annemarie did know the truth, she probably would have not said a single word to the soldier, and gotten killed.
    B) If Ellen knew the truth about Great Aunt Birte, she would probably would have been more scared and nervous if the Nazis came and found them all having a ¨funeral¨.

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  41. 1) I do believe Uncle Henrik. I believe sometimes you are braver if you don't know everything.
    2)Neuteral. Although they could be braver and more truthful, but they could still lie.
    3) Kirsti could not lie. she couldn't understand. I can't think of anything t the moment.

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  42. 1. Yes Annemarie was safer not knowing the truth because if the soldiers asked her who died she tell the truth if didn't know.
    2.Children that are at a young age should know the truth because if someone asked them a question about the Jews they would tell truly tell what they know.
    3.Joseph reminded me of the children knowing the truth. When Mr.Byers and Joseph helped the slaves Jared asked what are you doing Mr. Byers didn't want Jared to know of what they were doing because he thought it would be better for him not too tell the truth.

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  43. 1. Yes because Annemarie was safer not knowing the truth because if she knew the truth it would be hard to hide because Ellen is her best friend and she might give it away by acting strange 2. Yes because they do not need to have to stress of being killed or serisoly injured. Also they do not need to know because they may not know that their parents could be taken away permantly and killed and they do not need to stress about that either. 3. It sort of reminds me of the butterfly because they are hiding people from the Nazis and Annemarie is hiding Ellen from the Nazis and Monique is hiding Sevrine from the Nazis.

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  44. 1.I believe Uncle Henrick because if Annmarie knows the truth,she will have the truth breathing down her neck.

    2.If you are 10,it will be alright if you know about the secret. If you are 7 or younger,if you know the secret,and someone asks you,you will probably tell the person who asked.

    3.When Ellen is staying at Annmarie's home,it reminds me of "The Butterfly" when Servine is staying in the cellar of Monique's house.

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  45. 1. It's much safer for Annemarie not to know. Many kids don't know how to conceal a secret from grownups, especially five year old kids. I have never had a brother or sister, older or younger, but those who do have experienced it.

    2. Yes, it helps a lot. They then might worry that something bad might happen, which will be a horrible thing for a kid to worry about.

    3. Mr. Byers told Joseph knowing who helped wasn't necessary. One reason that was so was because, again, Joseph can't lie as good as an average adult.

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  46. 2.It will be dangerous because if to say a random person called you and asked if you were alone. A little kid could pick it up,say yes or no,and say the main question they might ask,"Where do you live and in which state and city?"

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  47. 1. Yes, I think it was safer that Annemarie did not no the truth because it would allow her to stay brave and be able to tell the truth if the Nazis ask her anything.
    2. Yes because sometimes it is not the best to no everything about something that could be threatening you especially at that age.
    3. I think a good comparison is in Joseph when his mom and stepfather tell him it is better that he didn't now about what was going on.

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  48. 1) Yes, I do believe Uncle Hendrik in saying that Annemarie s safer not knowing the truth because if Annemarie knew the truth about the Nazis in the beginning of the book, she would have been really nervous talking to them, and they would think she was suspicious.

    2) I do and do not think this general idea is true because with the Nazis, if a Nazi asked you a question about some thing that was true, and you lied to them, they would most likely know that you were lying, and therefor they have a reason to remember your face. But I also think this idea is true because if Annemarie knew the truth in the beginning, then the soldier would think that she was hiding something.

    3) One thing that defends this idea is in Harry Potter, when all of the professors didn't tell Harry that Sirius Black was his fathers best friend and his godfather, and that he was one of the reasons that he died, because he "betrayed James Potter."

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  49. 1)I believe that Uncle Henrik because he wouldn't lie to his niece again. I feel that Annemarie would be must safer if she didn't know the truth.
    2) This story can be true because the charters are fake but settings are. Back then children would be safer if they didn't know the truth because if a 5 year old knew the truth they would probly tell the Nazi's where they Jewish are.
    3)In Number the Stars They don't want Kirsti to know about the Jewish

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  50. 1. Uncle Henrick is trustworthy and she is safer.
    2. Yes because it's easier to tell the truth.
    3. When Mr. Buyers didn't tell Joseph at the end.

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  51. I think the kids should not know the truth because if she trys to lie she might have a ovias face that she is lieing

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  52. I think the kids should not know the truth because if she trys to lie she might have a ovias face that she is lieing

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  53. I think the kids should not know the truth because if she trys to lie she might have a ovias face that she is lieing

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